Comments on: VirtualBox 1.5: the good, the bad, and the ugly http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:47:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Cye http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2694 Cye Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:49:51 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2694 Look Virtual Box Sounds good to me. People it is free so lighten up a bit because they do not have to give you any program for free if they do not want to. The important aspect for me is & will always be, (Does it work?) because I rather it have an ugly plain interface & run good, then to have a pretty aqua interface & runs like crap because all of that pretty crap is all over the place using up resources that could be used where it counts the speed of the program & the ability to actually work. One example of this is Windows Bloated Vista(What a joke of an O.S) this thing is so bloated that people are bringing me there computers(take in mind that I fix computers & build them for a living & they are bringing me there new vista based computers & wanting me to install Windows xp on them & the problem with that is the stupid ignorant Computer makers do not include with these new expecially laptop vista based compuers the actual drivers for xp, they seem to only have the drivers for the bloated mess that these computer came with which is Vista & yes I know about going to the company that made the laptops website & try to download or call them & ask can I purchase one, but they said no we do not we can only give you the drivers for the O.s that we put on there originally (which was bloated vista) & yes I have googled the drivers & most of the driver website & no go. I simply told the people to let me install Linux, but ofcourse they do not want me to because they hardly want to put in the effort to learn how to use windows & I know I am a computer geek & all ,but people that do not want to put in the effort needs not to be using a computer at all I think. So the pretty little princess GUI is not always smart to implement because it could destroy how VirtualBox actually performs. Plus begers can not be choosy & if someone is kind enough to devote some of there precious time to create a program & then share it with me, then I for one are very appreciative & thankful for them making something that I can use & for free. So people try to be easy on how the interface looks because if you care so much about something so important like how the interface looks then either get to programming your own program or buy one because looks are unimportant in my eyes, how it works is what matters to me. So lighten up people because they do not have to give us anything Look Virtual Box Sounds good to me. People it is free so lighten up a bit because they do not have to give you any program for free if they do not want to. The important aspect for me is & will always be, (Does it work?) because I rather it have an ugly plain interface & run good, then to have a pretty aqua interface & runs like crap because all of that pretty crap is all over the place using up resources that could be used where it counts the speed of the program & the ability to actually work. One example of this is Windows Bloated Vista(What a joke of an O.S) this thing is so bloated that people are bringing me there computers(take in mind that I fix computers & build them for a living & they are bringing me there new vista based computers & wanting me to install Windows xp on them & the problem with that is the stupid ignorant Computer makers do not include with these new expecially laptop vista based compuers the actual drivers for xp, they seem to only have the drivers for the bloated mess that these computer came with which is Vista & yes I know about going to the company that made the laptops website & try to download or call them & ask can I purchase one, but they said no we do not we can only give you the drivers for the O.s that we put on there originally (which was bloated vista) & yes I have googled the drivers & most of the driver website & no go. I simply told the people to let me install Linux, but ofcourse they do not want me to because they hardly want to put in the effort to learn how to use windows & I know I am a computer geek & all ,but people that do not want to put in the effort needs not to be using a computer at all I think. So the pretty little princess GUI is not always smart to implement because it could destroy how VirtualBox actually performs. Plus begers can not be choosy & if someone is kind enough to devote some of there precious time to create a program & then share it with me, then I for one are very appreciative & thankful for them making something that I can use & for free. So people try to be easy on how the interface looks because if you care so much about something so important like how the interface looks then either get to programming your own program or buy one because looks are unimportant in my eyes, how it works is what matters to me. So lighten up people because they do not have to give us anything

]]> By: Lee http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2693 Lee Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:10:49 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2693 Do you have to install windows to run Virtual Box? I already have XP installed do I need to re install it? Do you have to install windows to run Virtual Box? I already have XP installed do I need to re install it?

]]> By: Steve http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2692 Steve Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:44:01 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2692 Ok, I read a post from Jenra who's running Autodesk Inventor Pro CAD, and it works "utterly flawlessly apart from the DirectX issue". What does that mean? My daughter is in a High School industrial design class that requires her to use AutoCAD Inventor on a PC, since we are Mac ONLY (I’d like to keep it that way) is there any value to looking at running Autodesk Inventor with VMware Fusion on an Intel machine? Ok, I read a post from Jenra who’s running Autodesk Inventor Pro CAD, and it works “utterly flawlessly apart from the DirectX issue”. What does that mean? My daughter is in a High School industrial design class that requires her to use AutoCAD Inventor on a PC, since we are Mac ONLY (I’d like to keep it that way) is there any value to looking at running Autodesk Inventor with VMware Fusion on an Intel machine?

]]> By: chris http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2691 chris Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:46:50 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2691 i think it is amazing. too bad about beryl integration though. that is really, really annoying, but hey... other than that, it is awesome! i think it is amazing. too bad about beryl integration though. that is really, really annoying, but hey… other than that, it is awesome!

]]> By: jf http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2690 jf Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:26:36 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2690 I was able to get Virtual Box seamless mode working with compiz-fusion by always keeping a window open in windows - I use Google floating bar. It keeps the Vm from bringing back up the desktop and other weird composite issues. I've used vmware products for a long time, but virtualbox, although a bit buggy is light, fast, and flexible. I was able to get Virtual Box seamless mode working with compiz-fusion by always keeping a window open in windows - I use Google floating bar. It keeps the Vm from bringing back up the desktop and other weird composite issues.

I’ve used vmware products for a long time, but virtualbox, although a bit buggy is light, fast, and flexible.

]]> By: Jestre http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2689 Jestre Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:32:33 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2689 I have tried to click "Devices → Install Guest Additions" but nothing happens. Certainly I am not asked to click Allow. I also cannot get NAT to work. Is there a bridged mode? This is on a laptop with only one wired interface, and I tried to select the Host interface rather than NAT, but that generates an error as soon as I select to Start the VM. Does networking have to be working before I can install the Guest Additions? I have tried to click “Devices → Install Guest Additions” but nothing happens. Certainly I am not asked to click Allow.

I also cannot get NAT to work. Is there a bridged mode? This is on a laptop with only one wired interface, and I tried to select the Host interface rather than NAT, but that generates an error as soon as I select to Start the VM. Does networking have to be working before I can install the Guest Additions?

]]> By: Eric http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2688 Eric Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:36:13 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2688 About the taskbar. I would like to have some form of an integrated taskbar. I am not really an OS programmer, but it would seem that there should be some object in the Windows OS which knows what items are currently on the taskbar. This information could be retrieved by an application running on the windows guest account, and that application could use the network connection between guest and host to communicate which programs are on the tray, and which has focus, what order they are displayed. Then the program could add links to the taskbar equivalent in Linux. It would also seem to me that the easiest thing to do would be to run the windows vm fullscreen on one of the virtual desktops and just use the rest for linux, unless you need to have both a linux and windows application sitting right next to each other.... Install a different vm on each side of the cube? I am interested in moving to Linux, but I need strong windows support. I don't think I need one sitting ontop of the other, so would I be better off just running the windows vm and setting up a share and mounting it in linux for the windows files? Thanks. About the taskbar. I would like to have some form of an integrated taskbar. I am not really an OS programmer, but it would seem that there should be some object in the Windows OS which knows what items are currently on the taskbar. This information could be retrieved by an application running on the windows guest account, and that application could use the network connection between guest and host to communicate which programs are on the tray, and which has focus, what order they are displayed. Then the program could add links to the taskbar equivalent in Linux.

It would also seem to me that the easiest thing to do would be to run the windows vm fullscreen on one of the virtual desktops and just use the rest for linux, unless you need to have both a linux and windows application sitting right next to each other…. Install a different vm on each side of the cube?

I am interested in moving to Linux, but I need strong windows support. I don’t think I need one sitting ontop of the other, so would I be better off just running the windows vm and setting up a share and mounting it in linux for the windows files?

Thanks.

]]> By: paul http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2687 paul Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:14:09 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2687 how good does a control panel need to look anyway? use for few minutes to setup and then close when a vm is running? it what the program does that important not it gui that is used to configure. how good does a control panel need to look anyway? use for few minutes to setup and then close when a vm is running?
it what the program does that important not it gui that is used to configure.

]]> By: Elm http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2686 Elm Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:25:17 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2686 <p>...It doesn't look like a Windows 95 app; at least, stop stating it over and over as if people don't have different opinions. I *like* how it looks, and a lot of people agree with me. </p> <p>I'm also not sure why your Virtualbox window is so blocky, but mine has rounded corners on the tabs, the scrollbar looks different, and the "shadows" aren't as deep. Also, I think when I changed the color scheme to make orange the color of selected items, Virtualbox followed suit (not only that, but my scrollbar is orange, too :D). So it actually looks a lot better than your screenshot.</p> <p><em><br /> <strong>Ed:</strong> Yes, you're completely right: <ul> <li>That VirtualBox looks terrible on the review system is irrelevant, as nobody uses the default desktop on the most popular Linux distro anyway. Most people come over to Elm's place to borrow his computer. </li> <li>I spent hours photoshopping that screenshot for my own nefarious purposes. </li> <li>You are <em>not</em> a moron. </li> </ul> </em></p> …It doesn’t look like a Windows 95 app; at least, stop stating it over and over as if people don’t have different opinions. I *like* how it looks, and a lot of people agree with me.

I’m also not sure why your Virtualbox window is so blocky, but mine has rounded corners on the tabs, the scrollbar looks different, and the “shadows” aren’t as deep. Also, I think when I changed the color scheme to make orange the color of selected items, Virtualbox followed suit (not only that, but my scrollbar is orange, too :D). So it actually looks a lot better than your screenshot.


Ed: Yes, you’re completely right:

  • That VirtualBox looks terrible on the review system is irrelevant, as nobody uses the default desktop on the most popular Linux distro anyway. Most people come over to Elm’s place to borrow his computer.
  • I spent hours photoshopping that screenshot for my own nefarious purposes.
  • You are not a moron.

]]> By: Keith http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2685 Keith Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:53:10 +0000 http://venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2685 This is sweet, and it might come in handy. I have just installed a server running Ubuntu (though I would have preferred Debian instead). Nonetheless, I require some Windows to run, so this is perfect. This is sweet, and it might come in handy. I have just installed a server running Ubuntu (though I would have preferred Debian instead). Nonetheless, I require some Windows to run, so this is perfect.

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